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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:57 pm
by Desert_Voyager
intercorni wrote:Frankfurt 2007: very loud (i like this), phantastic show!!!
At 36, I'm starting to take my health more seriously. I am quite concerned about the jubilations regarding the extreme loudness of the last TD concert. Great music does not need to be deafeningly loud. I would like to think that I'll still be able to hear, and not get tinnitus for the rest of my life, if I can go to the next one.... so that I can continue to enjoy quiet to moderately loud music afterwards. :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:00 pm
by 24db
Desert_Voyager wrote:
intercorni wrote:Frankfurt 2007: very loud (i like this), phantastic show!!!
At 36, I'm starting to take my health more seriously. I am quite concerned about the jubilations regarding the extreme loudness of the last TD concert. Great music does not need to be deafeningly loud. I would like to think that I'll still be able to hear and not get tinnitus for the rest of my life if I can go to the next one.... so that I can continue to enjoy quiet to moderately loud music afterwards. :wink:
try these:

http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/musi ... ection.htm

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:27 pm
by timer
24db wrote:
Desert_Voyager wrote:
intercorni wrote:Frankfurt 2007: very loud (i like this), phantastic show!!!
At 36, I'm starting to take my health more seriously. I am quite concerned about the jubilations regarding the extreme loudness of the last TD concert. Great music does not need to be deafeningly loud. I would like to think that I'll still be able to hear and not get tinnitus for the rest of my life if I can go to the next one.... so that I can continue to enjoy quiet to moderately loud music afterwards. :wink:
try these:

http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/musi ... ection.htm
These are the mutts nutts in earplugs, expensive they might be, but hey only cut out the bad frequencies. Our drummer uses a pair all the time when playing as his job is remastering and his ears are his trade.

Personally through years of personal hi - fi's, playing in bands, going to unhealthly load gigs during my teens and twenties my hearing is shot.
I now have to endure distorted concerts if the sounds is either too bright or too loud.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:34 pm
by 24db
timer wrote:
24db wrote:
Desert_Voyager wrote: At 36, I'm starting to take my health more seriously. I am quite concerned about the jubilations regarding the extreme loudness of the last TD concert. Great music does not need to be deafeningly loud. I would like to think that I'll still be able to hear and not get tinnitus for the rest of my life if I can go to the next one.... so that I can continue to enjoy quiet to moderately loud music afterwards. :wink:
try these:

http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/musi ... ection.htm
These are the mutts nutts in earplugs, expensive they might be, but hey only cut out the bad frequencies. Our drummer uses a pair all the time when playing as his job is remastering and his ears are his trade.

Personally through years of personal hi - fi's, playing in bands, going to unhealthly load gigs during my teens and twenties my hearing is shot.
I now have to endure distorted concerts if the sounds is either too bright or too loud.
I ****** my hearing through listening to about 60,000 drum samples (cutting off the dead air etc)...hence I got tinnitus, sod all to do with loud gigs. Luckily I got my hearing fixed

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:51 pm
by Desert_Voyager
24db wrote:
timer wrote:
These are the mutts nutts in earplugs, expensive they might be, but hey only cut out the bad frequencies. Our drummer uses a pair all the time when playing as his job is remastering and his ears are his trade.

Personally through years of personal hi - fi's, playing in bands, going to unhealthly load gigs during my teens and twenties my hearing is shot.
I now have to endure distorted concerts if the sounds is either too bright or too loud.
I ****** my hearing through listening to about 60,000 drum samples (cutting off the dead air etc)...hence I got tinnitus, sod all to do with loud gigs. Luckily I got my hearing fixed
I don't think that there is a cure for tinnitus or deafness, is there?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:54 pm
by 24db
Desert_Voyager wrote:
24db wrote:
timer wrote: These are the mutts nutts in earplugs, expensive they might be, but hey only cut out the bad frequencies. Our drummer uses a pair all the time when playing as his job is remastering and his ears are his trade.

Personally through years of personal hi - fi's, playing in bands, going to unhealthly load gigs during my teens and twenties my hearing is shot.
I now have to endure distorted concerts if the sounds is either too bright or too loud.
I ****** my hearing through listening to about 60,000 drum samples (cutting off the dead air etc)...hence I got tinnitus, sod all to do with loud gigs. Luckily I got my hearing fixed
I don't think that there is a cure for tinnitus or deafness, is there?
Tinnitus can be treated with 'noise re-training'...it's not that widely known, and works against the 'tinnitus can't be treated BS' view of some doctors in the NHS, luckily I saw one of the top audiological surgeons in the UK and was totally ok within 18 months

Tinnitus - not a disease, just the ability to hear sounds generated by the auditory (hearing) system, evidence of compensatory mechanisms that are part of its normal function. The problem is the distress created - not the type of sound.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:36 pm
by 24db
timer wrote:
24db wrote:
Desert_Voyager wrote: At 36, I'm starting to take my health more seriously. I am quite concerned about the jubilations regarding the extreme loudness of the last TD concert. Great music does not need to be deafeningly loud. I would like to think that I'll still be able to hear and not get tinnitus for the rest of my life if I can go to the next one.... so that I can continue to enjoy quiet to moderately loud music afterwards. :wink:
try these:

http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/musi ... ection.htm
These are the mutts nutts in earplugs, expensive they might be, but hey only cut out the bad frequencies. Our drummer uses a pair all the time when playing as his job is remastering and his ears are his trade.

Personally through years of personal hi - fi's, playing in bands, going to unhealthly load gigs during my teens and twenties my hearing is shot.
I now have to endure distorted concerts if the sounds is either too bright or too loud.
the cheap ones are quite good I hear

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:50 pm
by 24db
intercorni wrote:Frankfurt 2007: very loud (i like this), phantastic show!!!
excellent show

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:29 pm
by bigmoog
easily the best (for me) TD concert in at least 10 years...maybe since 87 :shock: :wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:37 pm
by epsilon75
24db wrote:
intercorni wrote:Frankfurt 2007: very loud (i like this), phantastic show!!!
excellent show

Incredible show................super loud and super quality 8) :D

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:41 pm
by 24db
epsilon75 wrote:
24db wrote:
intercorni wrote:Frankfurt 2007: very loud (i like this), phantastic show!!!
excellent show

Incredible show................super loud and super quality 8) :D
eh? oh yeah...loud ;)

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:42 pm
by bigmoog
I measured 110db at the balkon...128db during teetering scales...but that may have been my eyes rattling in me head

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:46 pm
by 24db
bigmoog wrote:I measured 110db at the balkon...128db during teetering scales...but that may have been my eyes rattling in me head
they were like that before Linda wound her music box up! ;)

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:48 pm
by bigmoog
Im in awe of Linda's box :shock: :wink:


awesome intro to a gig....mystified me...but hey.... :arrow:

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:48 pm
by epsilon75
24db wrote:
bigmoog wrote:I measured 110db at the balkon...128db during teetering scales...but that may have been my eyes rattling in me head
they were like that before Linda wound her music box up! ;)
Teetering scales got me all damp and over excited............. 8)