Tangerine Dream

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:50 pm**

burningbrain wrote:Why are 3 or 4 tracks credited to Ralf Wadephul, Thorsten Q and Johannes Schmoelling? These are the same Versions that appeared on the Tangents-Box, but credited re-recordings from Edgar Froese?

What are the 3 or 4 tracks called that are you asking about?

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:56 pm**

Pergamon, Logos, Desert Dream

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:15 pm**

burningbrain wrote:Pergamon, Logos, Desert Dream

It is because:

Pergamon Sphere is credited to JS as the perfomer on TD plays TD .
EF is credited as the re-recorder in the Tangents Boxset.

Logos Blue is credited to RW as the perfomer on TD plays TD.
EF is credited as the re-recorder in the Tangents Boxset.

Desert T. Dream is credited to RW as the perfomer on TD plays TD .
EF is credited as the re-recorder in the Tangents Boxset.

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:23 pm**

But the Versions are nearly the same.
So the MIDI-Sequences are the same, so nothing is newly "performed" then.

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:32 pm**

burningbrain wrote:But the Versions are nearly the same.
So the MIDI-Sequences are the same, so nothing is newly "performed" then.

To say nothing.... is correct regarding Pergamon Sphere, Logos Blue and Desert T. Dream. However, there are eleven other tracks on 'TD plays TD' that are new.

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:29 pm**

To me this is a bit of a mixed bag some tracks are okay. Especially JS & PH tracks
I don't see the point of Zlatko's reworking of Beach theme from Theif.
IMHO i never regarded him as a member of TD anyway.

I don't know about anyone else but this type of album doesn't do anything for me.

I would sooner have more vault offerings

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:33 pm**

alipaul wrote:To me this is a bit of a mixed bag some tracks are okay. Especially JS & PH tracks
I don't see the point of Zlatko's reworking of Beach theme from Theif.
IMHO i never regarded him as a member of TD anyway.

I don't know about anyone else but this type of album doesn't do anything for me.

I would sooner have more vault offerings

More BOOTLEG BOXES is what we need

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:36 pm**

alipaul wrote:To me this is a bit of a mixed bag some tracks are okay. Especially JS & PH tracks
I don't see the point of Zlatko's reworking of Beach theme from Theif.
IMHO i never regarded him as a member of TD anyway.

I don't know about anyone else but this type of album doesn't do anything for me.

I would sooner have more vault offerings

For the last hour I've been enjoying most of it. The best track is playing right now..... Logos Velvet and it is wonderfully wonderful, IMHO.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:55 pm**

Regarding the above list....

I had to stop at the comments on track #1 and not read any further...

This is NOT the same as the 1990 Mandala version.

Couldn't read on.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:56 pm**

burningbrain wrote:
So, this CD doesn't really contain any new "performed" Versiosns.
Only a recycling-Sampler, like Tangents, I-Box or Roots Collection.

You are incorrect , for example, Logos Velvet is very different to the one on Tangents. Have you listened to the album?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:05 pm**

I don't dislike the album but i have to question what does this album add the TD's musical heritage.
How many versions of Phaedra do we need ?

More Vault or Bootleg recordings please (no bootmoon) would go down a lot better

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:13 pm**

alipaul wrote:I don't dislike the album but i have to question what does this album add the TD's musical heritage.
How many versions of Phaedra do we need ?

More Vault or Bootleg recordings please (no bootmoon) would go down a lot better

Spot on Ali

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:28 pm**

Hello,

I really think that
- Logos blue, Pergamon Sphere and Desert T Dream ARE (a few remastering process excepted) the versions from Tangent ... which by the way were very nice versions (and were really re-recordings, but from more than 10 years ago). So it's nice - but mainly for those who don't already own Tangent - to hear those versions on a single CD;
- it's also hard to deny that the credits from those three tracks (only credited to Froese in Tangent) are kind of strange (I remember though that Radephul and Schmoelling were in the 'thank you' section from Tangent : so perhaps Froese was then the only one credited for contractual reasons with Virgin);
- Ride on the ray seems to be the Tempodrom 2006 live version (not sure 100% though);
- some other tracks from TD plays TD are undoubtly more 'aditionally recorded' (aka bananarama) than 're-recorded' tracks (and surely not everything was 'newly recorded in 2006' as stated in the booklet);
- the TQ tracks are beautiful, to say the least...

So I really love most of the old an new music from Edgar and TD, but I also would be pleased with exact information over their (many) products...
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Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:54 pm**

I would like to appear the text like the way I typed it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:53 pm**

burningbrain wrote:
Beaubourg wrote:Regarding the above list....
My list from above is gone, better say corrected. So, I couldn't be that wrong.

elgreco wrote:- Logos blue, Pergamon Sphere and Desert T Dream ARE (a few remastering process excepted) the versions from Tangent ... which by the way were very nice versions (and were really re-recordings, but from more than 10 years ago). So it's nice - but mainly for those who don't already own Tangent - to hear those versions on a single CD;
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This is what I said in the post, that was corrected by the admins

I wouldn't want to agree with you because then we would both be wrong.

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