billythefish wrote:planetdalek wrote:Glad I didn't hear it because I may have lumped him. I was in the middle in front of Chris. He definately was not <my - ming> because a few notes were a bit flat. Also, Ponchartrain was nothing like the album version.
The drums did appear to have mufflers on the top hats and cymbals though, but they may well have been A>D pickups/converters.
It was a great gig, so I don't effing care
Agreed - you could also see Chris's throat moving and neck muscles straining. As a former singer myself, I find it easy to tell who is and isn't singing.
So you're saying he sung it live then mate? You never know perhaps TD had a serious technical problem at the gig during the first half...who knows. All I can add is that from where I was standing it just sounded like TD played back the whole of MFD from hard-disc. Now, nobody and I mean nobody stands up for TD more than me (modest git) and some of the comments from so called fans have been knee deep in vitriol, but...I've got to say that it was strange for the drums to be non-existant in the mix, especially after hearing Iris for the last 6 years. Chris's vocals are another matter all together, by now it should be obvious that Edgar sees the composition as king and therefore wants the crowd to hear it 'exactly' how they recorded it, and if that means clicking a mouse triggering Wav files, or hand triggering real-time phrase sequencing then that's how it must be. I think I stand with a foot in both camps, or perhaps better said, I can see both points of view, the only difference is that I'm not jumping up and down shouting abuse at the group (I hated and I do mean hated the RFH gig, but did I throw my toys out of the pram or pick a fight with fans who loved it? I don't think so, I stayed to the end and applauded the group). It may be a case of the most 'vocal' critics of TD haven't been to a TD gig in a while, but if they have you have to ask where their ears have been. IMHO the war is over with this issue, TD have never played everything by hand...period (bar the late 60's or early seventies), 1980 was the cut-off and if fans think there's a difference between Chris Franke having access to every note running on a sequencer in 1982 or 1986 (but then choosing not to edit them at all...shoot me down in flames if you like, feel free to send circuit diagrams and close-ups of Chris anytime you like
) and a software sequencer triggering loops, phrases and midi information then I think they're looking for things that don't exist and haven't for decades. A TD gig is a total experience, fans, lights, music and Big Col giving it large at the front.
Will I go and see TD again? you bet, 26 years of enjoyment ruined by one small section of a gig....don't be silly
