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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:47 pm
by epsilon75
The person who told me i believe 100% ,and i think that person is probably in a very good position to comment on it.
I have absolutely no reason to doubt the person or the information supplied,it seems to me there are people out there that think CF played every sequence whilst he was within TD,this is very far from true,simple as that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:48 pm
by 24db
epsilon75 wrote:The person who told me i believe 100% ,and i think that person is probably in a very good position to comment on it.
I have absolutely no reason to doubt the person or the information supplied,it seems to me there are people out there that think CF played every sequence whilst he was within TD,this is very far from true,simple as that.
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I completely respect your comment and the person who told you mate
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:50 pm
by epsilon75
24db wrote:epsilon75 wrote:The person who told me i believe 100% ,and i think that person is probably in a very good position to comment on it.
I have absolutely no reason to doubt the person or the information supplied,it seems to me there are people out there that think CF played every sequence whilst he was within TD,this is very far from true,simple as that.
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I completely respect your comment and the person who told you mate
Vice versa Andy
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:53 pm
by 24db
epsilon75 wrote:24db wrote:epsilon75 wrote:The person who told me i believe 100% ,and i think that person is probably in a very good position to comment on it.
I have absolutely no reason to doubt the person or the information supplied,it seems to me there are people out there that think CF played every sequence whilst he was within TD,this is very far from true,simple as that.
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I completely respect your comment and the person who told you mate
Vice versa Andy
in the end it can only be a game of percentages, what 'really counts' is the quality of the music, whatever the decade (or lineup) TD have produced some jawdropping and truly emotional music, and for that I'm extremely grateful. 28 years of entertainment and counting.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:55 pm
by epsilon75
Of that Andy there is no doubt,100% agreement here
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:04 pm
by timer
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in the end it can only be a game of percentages, what 'really counts' is the quality of the music, whatever the decade (or lineup) TD have produced some jawdropping and truly emotional music, and for that I'm extremely grateful. 28 years of entertainment and counting.[/quote]
Very nicely put Andy
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:17 am
by alipaul
epsilon75 wrote:andeemac2006 wrote:Mmm i was right there are a lot of Tangerine Dream fans that dont rate Mr Franke
Well all i have to say is, why Did all the Fantastic Percussion, Background tracks and Effect sounds on say HYPERBOREA, Poland, Le Parq, Song of the Whale (Franke's masterpeice) , the 86 tour and Tracks written up to 88 Evaporate going into the 90's
The whole Percussive sound that was Frank's trademark just wasnt there anymore from the 90's onwards . Am I right? course I am
And why is the Sequencing on Logos, and Poland so outstanding, who did the programming for Thief Franke did
Lastly have you listened to Paul Haslingers solo albums, none have come up to Tracks layed down with Tangerine Dream, Not that I am knocking him he is a fantastic Player.
Its just that Christophe Franke dosent get enough Praise for his work with the Band we love so much
Im led to believe that the sequencing on Logos,Thief & Poland is not his work
I tend to believe this as the concerts i attended he looked bored and uninterested to me and he looked like he didn't want to be there
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:26 pm
by bigmoog
I speak for myself, since I first listened to TD, first held a album cover and poured over it as I heard strange, unearthly music, that quite simply changed my life-made me interested...and then travelled with me for many many years......for me, its only ever the result, the MUSIC, the homogenous WHOLE...what is left, the....sounds that no one can replicate..TD are unique, I love them more than words, you know...thats why I am BM, I couldn't care less if [insert band member] played this or that, because really all we have is the music [although TD = EF and EF=TD]
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:30 pm
by epsilon75
bigmoog wrote:I speak for myself, since I first listened to TD, first held a album cover and poured over it as I heard strange, unearthly music, that quite simply changed my life-made me interested...and then travelled with me for many many years......for me, its only ever the result, the MUSIC, the homogenous WHOLE...what is left, the....sounds that no one can replicate..TD are unique, I love them more than words, you know...thats why I am BM, I couldn't care less if [insert band member] played this or that, because really all we have is the music [although TD = EF and EF=TD]
When God speaks you listen
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:58 pm
by alipaul
Didn't i read somewhere that CF tried to pass himself off as the founder of TD.
So should we believe he was responsible for all the the Electronic percussion & sequencer arrangements ..................................
I think not !!!! It's not hard to know who was the REAL driving force behind TD and thats the main man EF
Look at all the wonderful music we're getting at the moment
What wonderful albums as CF made or been Grammy nominated of late
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:42 pm
by krismopompas
hmmmm.......... a long time i was thought, that cf had made all the sequence-work........... but i think i was wrong at this point........... hear his soloworks and you realize that there is nothing of that stuff............ and on the other side: hear td and you find the same brilliant sequencerlines today without cf.
is ef=td???........... yes and no............. imo his soloworks have nothing to do with td or it sounds not like td groupworks ( but this is with all soloworks of former members)........... td is the sum of its parts, but without ef there is no td, that is the other side of the medal.
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:51 pm
by timer
EF managed to do a pretty good imitation of TD on Views from a Red train.
I think we could,
, or maybe not
find that EF can actually tune himself in musically or spiritually to the type of music he is doing at any given point - an extremely talented man IMO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:07 pm
by alipaul
timer wrote:EF managed to do a pretty good imitation of TD on Views from a Red train.
I think we could,
, or maybe not
find that EF can actually tune himself in musically or spiritually to the type of music he is doing at any given point - an extremely talented man IMO
In total agreement with you Tim
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:50 am
by andeemac2006
Nobody has answered my statement
"Why Did all the Fantastic Percussion, Background tracks and Effect sounds on say HYPERBOREA, Poland, Le Parq, Song of the Whale (Franke's masterpeice) , the 86 tour and Tracks written up to 88 Evaporate going into the 90's
The whole Percussive sound that was Frank's trademark just wasnt there anymore from the 90's onwards
Arguably Tang Dream went a way during the 90's
Have we had any tracks as good as "Dolphin Dance-- Long version" and "Song of the whale " since Franke left I mean look at the evidence
All I am saying is why did Franke leave, the real Truth and what is he doing now, and is he ok health wise . Really that is all.
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:25 am
by epsilon75
andeemac2006 wrote:Nobody has answered my statement
"Why Did all the Fantastic Percussion, Background tracks and Effect sounds on say HYPERBOREA, Poland, Le Parq, Song of the Whale (Franke's masterpeice) , the 86 tour and Tracks written up to 88 Evaporate going into the 90's
The whole Percussive sound that was Frank's trademark just wasnt there anymore from the 90's onwards
Arguably Tang Dream went a way during the 90's
Have we had any tracks as good as "Dolphin Dance-- Long version" and "Song of the whale " since Franke left I mean look at the evidence
All I am saying is why did Franke leave, the real Truth and what is he doing now, and is he ok health wise . Really that is all.
Perhaps you should email Edgar Froese for an answer
