Klaus Schulze..

Pertou · Post by **Pertou** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:45 am

Colin, check your mails!

24db · Post by **24db** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:46 am

timer wrote:Ive never heard any KS music is it any good ?

blimey Tim

actually there are a number of fans who like TD and yet don't really follow EM or at least not some of the more obvious names. That leaves you with a massive back catalogue to checkout

timer · Post by **timer** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:47 am

24db wrote:
timer wrote:Ive never heard any KS music is it any good ?
blimey Tim actually there are a number of fans who like TD and yet don't really follow EM or at least not some of the more obvious names. That leaves you with a massive back catalogue to checkout

Good that I start new job Monday then !.

I do follow some other EM artists but not with the same passion as with TD.

KS recomendations to get me started please

Pertou · Post by **Pertou** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:49 am

timer wrote:KS recomendations to get me started please

Try Kontinuum! Also Cyborg and X are my all-time favourite albums along with TD's Force Majeure.

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:49 am

Pertou wrote:Colin, check your mails!

Thanks Jacob,much appreciated

Pertou · Post by **Pertou** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:50 am

Because you're worth it!

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:51 am

timer wrote:Ive never heard any KS music is it any good ?

Surprised at that Tim,Timewind and Moondawn are two excellent albums to start with IMHO

24db · Post by **24db** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:55 am

timer wrote:
24db wrote:
timer wrote:Ive never heard any KS music is it any good ?
blimey Tim actually there are a number of fans who like TD and yet don't really follow EM or at least not some of the more obvious names. That leaves you with a massive back catalogue to checkout
Good that I start new job Monday then !.

I do follow some other EM artists but not with the same passion as with TD.

KS recomendations to get me started please

Well the obvious one should be Moondawn from the '70's...very good indeed, although I think it's a tad over-rated (runs for cover), possibly Mirage or X (although parts bore me rigid these days).

for 'me' Klaus's best stuff was done in the '80's when (like TD) he had access to digital equipment along side the Moog stuff. So I'd recommend Audentity (originally a double album) with two long sequencer tracks, one amazing pseudo avant garde track called 'Sebastian Im Traum' and a side of shorter tracks most which feature Michael Shrieves' amazing drumming (that's MS from Santanna btw).

My altime fav album is Trancefer, but some fans don't rate it, personally i would avoid anything after about 92, but that's just my opinion. Also have a look at his stuff with Pete Namlook...especially Dark Side of the Moog parts 5, 6 and 7, hard to find on the original FAX label, therefore look for Namlooks Ambient world re-issues...much cheaper and they all contain the same music

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:58 am

I have to admit "Silent Running" is an absolute Gem IMHO

24db · Post by **24db** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:00 pm

epsilon75 wrote:I have to admit "Silent Running" is an absolute Gem IMHO

Yep...there's some great drumming by Mike on that, late and then ahead of the main beat...brilliant. Klaus's own drumming and drum programming was..well...to honest rubbish compared with that

Pertou · Post by **Pertou** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:02 pm

I also like the Wahnfried 12" called Tonwelle. The B-side is VERY similar to 'Trancefer'. I think Trancefer is very sparse... there are not many solos. I reckon that KS told the cellist and the drummer to play over his sequencer, while he picked up cigarrettes from the gas station.

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:04 pm

Pertou wrote:I also like the Wahnfried 12" called Tonwelle. The B-side is VERY similar to 'Trancefer'. I think Trancefer is very sparse... there are not many solos. I reckon that KS told the cellist and the drummer to play over his sequencer, while he picked up cigarrettes from the gas station.

I have to admit Jacob that i have found some of the Wahnfried stuff very boring.........but thats just my opinion

24db · Post by **24db** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:05 pm

Pertou wrote:I also like the Wahnfried 12" called Tonwelle. The B-side is VERY similar to 'Trancefer'. I think Trancefer is very sparse... there are not many solos. I reckon that KS told the cellist and the drummer to play over his sequencer, while he picked up cigarrettes from the gas station.

That's why I like it! Klaus 'in his mind' thinks he's rick wakeman, only problem he hasn't got the technique to keep your interested (IMHO)...for me 'less is more'

cantosis · Post by **cantosis** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:59 pm

24db wrote:
Pertou wrote:I also like the Wahnfried 12" called Tonwelle. The B-side is VERY similar to 'Trancefer'. I think Trancefer is very sparse... there are not many solos. I reckon that KS told the cellist and the drummer to play over his sequencer, while he picked up cigarrettes from the gas station.
That's why I like it! Klaus 'in his mind' thinks he's rick wakeman, only problem he hasn't got the technique to keep your interested (IMHO)...for me 'less is more'

That's the problem with Schulze unless your out of your head with drugs(not that I do them) or Booze(which I do from time to time) then its very hard not to get bored with his stuff.

The first Schulze CD I ever got about 15years ago was Timewind and it blew me away when it first started but it doesn`t go anywhere, like all his albums I start off intrigued but by the end I am praying to god asking for forgiveness "I am sorry for all my sins but I beg of you, please do not make me suffer from another Schulze album again"

24db · Post by **24db** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:13 pm

cantosis wrote:
24db wrote:
Pertou wrote:I also like the Wahnfried 12" called Tonwelle. The B-side is VERY similar to 'Trancefer'. I think Trancefer is very sparse... there are not many solos. I reckon that KS told the cellist and the drummer to play over his sequencer, while he picked up cigarrettes from the gas station.
That's why I like it! Klaus 'in his mind' thinks he's rick wakeman, only problem he hasn't got the technique to keep your interested (IMHO)...for me 'less is more'

That's the problem with Schulze unless your out of your head with drugs(not that I do them) or Booze(which I do from time to time) then its very hard not to get bored with his stuff.

The first Schulze CD I ever got about 15years ago was Timewind and it blew me away when it first started but it doesn`t go anywhere, like all his albums I start off intrigued but by the end I am praying to god asking for forgiveness "I am sorry for all my sins but I beg of you, please do not make me suffer from another Schulze album again"

hmmm a tad unfair I think. I think 'the whole point' of Klaus's stuff is repetition..on and on, but with small and fairly subtle changes in timbre or melody. I think it takes a slightly different attitude from the listener to get the best out of it (and that has nothing to do with drugs in any shape or form).

In some way's I think Klaus's stuff suffers because of Cds's, after they were invented we could skip stuff, or create play lists...going from track to track to get a quick fix. Klaus's music get's ripped to pieces and becomes nothing with the attention span most listeners have these days (sweeping generalistaion 101)...you must just sit down and listen to it...and not use it as background music IMHO, then and only then do you get the most out of it. I think it was klaus that once said that we've 'lost the art of listening'

Klaus also said he's been writing and playing the same album for years. for a few that's a problem (including me) so I've left the Schulze train.

But...he's produced some gems

Tangerine Dream

Klaus Schulze..