Symbolism of the Cover artwork and making people think

[epsilon75]

I do and am watching it now..........all a little crazy but fun

first track "Little Blonde in The Park of Attractions"

[Chris Monk]

[
EF: But almost nobody got it. For example, on almost all TD covers there are so called pictograms, symbolic hints to something, and in the text there are references to things one can find out. There are combinations of numbers, numerology. TD records are full of these.

Some people come and say "I discovered something!". But I have to add: These are always positive hints. Positive in such a way that they encourage in a playful manner to think. We never want to influence anyone, so there are no hidden messages or any of this magic stuff. We have nothing to do with this. But sometimes we don't get a lot of response.

Ever get the impression you've not been paying attention?

Have to dig out some CDs and see if I can find any hidden meanings.

[Michael66]

Have to dig out some CDs and see if I can find any hidden meanings.

So far, nobody has been successful in decoding the i-Box binary numbers btw. ...

[Chris Monk]

Have to dig out some CDs and see if I can find any hidden meanings.

So far, nobody has been successful in decoding the i-Box binary numbers btw. ...

I've had a go but it doesn't make much sense. They are two numbers 45992 and 496939. Is there any special significance to these numbers? I'm b*gg*r*d if I know.

You can't convert them to text because neither binary has enough characters to be divisible by 8.

[bigmoog]

496939 is the genome sequence for a western clawed frog

http://www.genome.ad.jp/dbget-bin/www_bget?xtr+496939

but of course you do a google and you get 1,000s of results


my feeling is that the numbers are either celestial co-ordinates or my IQ

[Michael66]

How did the numbers-to-letters conversion for the Rockoon-cover work (I don't have it)?

496939 is the genome sequence for a western clawed frog

Here's the guy:


Maybe it's a magic spell for former band members!

[bigmoog]

further research on 45992 makes:

http://www.bartleby.com/66/92/45992.html


possible....er....maybe not

[Michael66]

http://www.bartleby.com/66/92/45992.html
possible....er....maybe not

Mr. John Crowe Ransom could be a relative of Father Jack Daniels


All that stuff about genome sequences made me remember I recently heard there are 23 chromosome pairs in human beings ... could that, in Edgar-speak, be another possible meaning for "Network 23" ? I have a feeling the "Exit" album could be the entry point for the TD concept into the material world and the world of human beings... the lyrics to Kiew Mission sound like a traveller from space approaching Earth!

[bigmoog]

I think you may be on to something there about Exit etc......


Im off to ponder the following conundrum:


from an extract on a paper Im reading on quanta and reality:


'Simultaneity presents a big conceptual challenge, both theoretically and experimentally. While entangled multi-partite (singlet) states abound, the EPR argument [12] requires the unambiguous existence of (counterfactual) elements of physical reality. Theoretically, this means that we have to find four-partite states with the uniqueness property [13] such that knowledge of a property of one particle entails the certainty that, if this property were measured on the other three particles as well, the outcome of the measurement would be a unique function of the outcome of the measurement actually performed.'


the music of TD will help me here

[Chris Monk]

How did the numbers-to-letters conversion for the Rockoon-cover work (I don't have it)?

496939 is the genome sequence for a western clawed frog

Here's the guy:


Maybe it's a magic spell for former band members!

That's it!!!

It's all perfectly obvious now.

Tangerine Dream = Green Frog.

The Rockoon thing...well I guessed that the big sequence across the front was Tangerine Dream, it had the right number of characters and we were gifted the D. I then tried to decode the rest of the sequences assuming it was Tangerine Dream, it gets a lot easier as you go.

...alright I was bored OK.

[Michael66]

The Rockoon thing...well I guessed that the big sequence across the front was Tangerine Dream, it had the right number of characters and we were gifted the D. I then tried to decode the rest of the sequences assuming it was Tangerine Dream, it gets a lot easier as you go.

Is it "coded" like A=1, B=2, C=3, ..., or is it in something like the ASCII code?

[Chris Monk]

The Rockoon thing...well I guessed that the big sequence across the front was Tangerine Dream, it had the right number of characters and we were gifted the D. I then tried to decode the rest of the sequences assuming it was Tangerine Dream, it gets a lot easier as you go.

Is it "coded" like A=1, B=2, C=3, ..., or is it in something like the ASCII code?

Yes, it's a simple code.
T = 8/5, A = 1/200, N = 5/8, G = 3/2, E = 2/7, R = 8/4, I = 3/8, N = 5/8, E = 2/7
D = D, R = 8/4, E = 2/7, A = 1/200, M = 5/6

Don't know if there's any logic to it.

....I wasn't that bored.

[Michael66]

Yes, it's a simple code.
T = 8/5, A = 1/200, N = 5/8, G = 3/2, E = 2/7, R = 8/4, I = 3/8, N = 5/8, E = 2/7
D = D, R = 8/4, E = 2/7, A = 1/200, M = 5/6

Interesting - thank you!

[Michael66]

There's one pattern in it:

Letters used: T, A, N, G, E, R, I, M
alphabetically sorted: A, E, G, I, M, N, R, T

The letters together with their fractions:
A= 1/200, E= 2/7, G=3/2, I=3/8, M=5/6, N=5/8, R=8/4, T=8/5

So towards the end of the alphabet, the numerators are either constant or increasing, but never decreasing. Not sure if that's enough of a rule for building fractions for the unused letters, because I can't see a rule for the denominators. And the 1/200 for the letter A is kind of irritating. Now where's my anorak?

[sparrow]

I was bottom of the class for maths..all gobbledegook to me