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And not to be a naysayer, but I inquired about this with the gentleman that runs the elsewhere.com site, and he basically stated that the project never quite got off the ground (and this inquiry came after the above news item was originally posted in February).

Of course, I hope he's wrong.

Let's hope he is wrong. I'd like to see a Vangelis DVD. Like Andy though I'd like to see more of Vangelis than a host of celebrities, if it does materialise.


They could do worse than just repackaging all the old interviews with Vangelis that appear on youtube, live improvisations etc...that would tell you a million more things about his music than just some director saying how amazing he is. We already know that, I don't need somebody to tell me walking on water is cool....I wanna see it...as some smart**** once said ;)

It also depends on what they've got to say I suppose. If it's all "He's fabulous darling!!!" then it's going to be pretty dull but if it shows valuable insight into how he works then it could be very interesting. It was very interesting watching Klaus Schulze's Rheingold DVD interview with Steven Wilson today where he was talking about his formative years with TD and solo. Sadly there wasn't enough of it for my tastes.


If by valuable insight into Klaus's early days you mean making slightly daft remarks about TD...then yes Steve's yer man. Personally I found the interview a real missed opportunity...like getting two hours with Edgar and then spending all the time asking about how much he dislikes New Age or the last time he bought y-fronts ;) But..hey each to their own, a lot of people really rated the DVD, so I'm in a minority.

Going by the list:

Sean Connery etc (actors...deep insight into music? Hmm ;))

Oliver Stone, Roman Polanski, Ridley Scott, David Puttnam (all directors...only Polanski and Scott IMHO are even interesting when they talk about film!!!! ;))

Jon Anderson (could be good, I'll give you that, at least he's actually worked with the geezer on a musical level, rather than just being a celebrity fan or somebody who hired him).

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It sound likes really interesting documentary film about Vangelis of his music.

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Here's a link to part one of a slightly better YouTube compiled video
attempting to take a look at Vangelis' life and music ..if you've time
there's some good rare footage amongst it all..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1eSWaNGvY

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Here's a link to part one of a slightly better YouTube compiled video
attempting to take a look at Vangelis' life and music ..if you've time
there's some good rare footage amongst it all..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1eSWaNGvY

Chris,
thks for info.
http://www.pearfilms.com/vangelis.html
Vangelis is a 20th century composer with a relativly
small amount of "fame" concidering his prolific career.
This biography is still a work in progress,
But I'm proud to say after a year of hard work it's 98% finished!
you can watch it here.

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Bit of BBC Blade Runner related news I saw today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8109016.stm

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Going by the list:
Sean Connery etc (actors...deep insight into music? Hmm ;))
Oliver Stone, Roman Polanski, Ridley Scott, David Puttnam (all directors...only Polanski and Scott IMHO are even interesting when they talk about film!!!! ;))
Jon Anderson (could be good, I'll give you that, at least he's actually worked with the geezer on a musical level, rather than just being a celebrity fan or somebody who hired him).


Sean Connery I don't know ... but I understand that he has a massive library of music and is an aivd listener and collector. I would imagine that his fame kinda prevents him from hitting the streets and all the concerts in town or London!

Oliver Stone ... I like to say that he does not know music from a note on a sheet of paper ... I don't think that he had the guts to make Jim Morrison a poet and instead do a bit of a gutter film. But I have to admit that LA can be such a gutter and in that sense ... Oliver did fine!

Roman Polanski would not surprise me ... he has always had very modern music and you could even go back to his use of the Third Ear Band on his Macbeth ... and usually more modern composers. His film style is very dependant on specific details in music, not the generic style usually found in American/Hollywood films.

Ridley Scott, has a history of using far out music ... even Tangerine Dream although not as much as he probably wished he could have. To say that the man can not talk about music, he probably can and shold be able to discuss it as well as Kubrick or Lean ever did! Some directors PUT music on the map! Why? They know how to film it and know how to blend it ... it's not about background radio here!

David Puttnam I am not sure and would have to research some more ...

Jon Anderson ... enough said.

Hugh Hudson ... it takes a director that also loves music, to the umpteenth degree, to apppreciate and then do what he did on the film Chariots of Fire and get the accolades they both got. And well deserved. In essense it is really rare when a film knows how to use music to its advantage and I think that Hugh and Vangelis probably discussed some of these details ... the seats being closed (and the main theme) is probably one such example that could just as easily come out of Vangelis or Hugh who might have said ... I got this idea ... long shot with thousands of seats and a janitor closing the seats and sweeping the place ... and an artist with the vision of the gods to deliver it!

No one mentioned here one detail that could/would have helped Vangelis retire to become his own man early on ... and that is that he is well know for not enjoying flying between places ... and that could create a logistics nightmare.

Of all the weird details in all these pages, is the one about synths and tuning ... and specially for today's standards when so much of those old machines are now software and you don't have to lug around 200 pounds when you can bring 5 ... and get the same results (ie. Tangerine Dream -- you can't tell me the old synth sounds better or worse than they do now!) ... or better. That would suggest that touring for him would be easier than ever ... but it would mean that he might have to sit and figure out how to break down his own pieces so he can play them on the stage and if you ask me ... that is a nightmare I prefer to let go and leave behind!

Can he play live? Of course he can ... but his own critical standards, which he has show us over the years in his albums ... are so high ... that he might feel disappointed ... on the other hadn I say that he could also surprise himself .. who knows ... but why not bring another person or two with him?

Do I have a preference for any of his albums?

Not really ... the minute I say I like this one I will play something else and it will grab me just as well ... but I have to admit that the images from Blade Runner really put a dent on that music ... it is specially touching and hard to let go some of the most poetic music ever done since Dr. Zhivago. And I do like El Greco a heck of a lot ... it is pure classical music in my ears and truly beautiful ... and deserves much more credit.

But then, to my ears, Vangelis has always been classical ... right from the start!


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All I'll say is that as a 14 year old who was taken under the wing of Vangelis himself at Nemo Studios in London from the recording periods of La Fete Sauvage in the 70's up to Bladerunner in the 80's the man was and still is a genius in all senses of the word.

Genius is a word I don't use lightly but certainly Mr Papathanassiou is probably the closest, barring Edgar of course musically I can quite honestly put firmly under this banner. Both I am also aware would and
do strongly dispute, laugh, step back from any "genius" type tag being pinned to them. This IMHO is again these guys genuinely not entertaining this notion,another major characteristic of greatness, i.e music first, Sychophansy last (or rather non-existant)

Even in those early days for me with Vangelis there was always something about him that was enigmatic dare I say even mystical about being in his presence. His privacy then and now and how unaffected or desiring he was and still is of the media spotlight in any shape or form is, something that truly seperates the real wheat from the chaff.

No doubt its a natural human trait, but people are quick all too often to be ready to dicotomize, pigeon-hole and catorgorise artists to fulfill their own gaps as it were into their own life scenarios to fit in, when the "i's" aren't dotted and the "T's" don't seem to be crossed this is when assumuptions are made and fiction factory fills a false jigsaw puzzle.

I've warbled on here again I know, so apologies to all :oops: , but at the end of the day, in hundreds of years time and more when folk are still trying to debate MIDI over the Moog and bananas over tangerines there will only ever be remembered, and more than anyone in the EM history books for our period of time now, two genuine pioneers and genius' (sorry again EF :wink: ) Evangelos Odysseas Papathanassiou and Edgar Wilmar Froese...the two living Mozarts of our time....I rest my case :wink: ..just enjoy and embrace the musical experience!

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First heard Vangelis while watching 'Blade Runner' and the first soundtrack by Vangelis I purchased. :D

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Here's the opening 5 mins or so video clip of the 1970
film SexPower film I came across scored by Vangelis....

http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/v ... er.fr.html

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Janus wrote:
Here's the opening 5 mins or so video clip of the 1970
film SexPower film I came across scored by Vangelis....

http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/v ... er.fr.html


I have the music power soundtrack & find the whole thing unlistenable. :roll:


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Here's the opening 5 mins or so video clip of the 1970
film SexPower film I came across scored by Vangelis....

http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/v ... er.fr.html


dreadful...sounds like Jerry Goldsmith's (excellent) Planet of the Apes soundtrack reproduced by 4 three year olds ;)...well perhaps not. Not exactly Vang's best day...but hey he went on to produce some of the best music ever (note I didn't say EM)

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Here's the opening 5 mins or so video clip of the 1970
film SexPower film I came across scored by Vangelis....

http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/v ... er.fr.html


dreadful...sounds like Jerry Goldsmith's (excellent) Planet of the Apes soundtrack reproduced by 4 three year olds ;)...well perhaps not. Not exactly Vang's best day...but hey he went on to produce some of the best music ever (note I didn't say EM)

Didn't say it was any good Andy...and agree with you on this one...
btw have you heard his other early recordings that include cover gems
of White Christmas and (believe it or not) The Sound of Music amongst other things..seriously,not for the faint hearted :wink:

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Janus wrote:
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Here's the opening 5 mins or so video clip of the 1970
film SexPower film I came across scored by Vangelis....

http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/v ... er.fr.html


dreadful...sounds like Jerry Goldsmith's (excellent) Planet of the Apes soundtrack reproduced by 4 three year olds ;)...well perhaps not. Not exactly Vang's best day...but hey he went on to produce some of the best music ever (note I didn't say EM)

Didn't say it was any good Andy...and agree with you on this one...
btw have you heard his other early recordings that include cover gems
of White Christmas and (believe it or not) The Sound of Music amongst other things..seriously,not for the faint hearted :wink:


I haven't mate...and to be honest I think you've just put me off. Nah for me Vang started to be good with the French Documentaries and disappeared into his own reverb in the late 80's. But what B***y excellent music in between! A couple of bad tracks in album after album of brilliance...all IMHO of course

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I made 3 copies of Vangelis collection because for a backup Disc the original CD Disc
It won’t get these scratches on Master CD all 3 albums are extremely rare.


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Nemo studio has been updating there new web site show more view about the Music Studio
More information about that Building Vangelis spent his years recording over years.
Lots photos Gallery and talk about Blade Runner music score.



http://www.nemostudios.co.uk/






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