Drum/Electronic Vs Human Percussion

alipaul · Post by **alipaul** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:03 pm

Before we start this is not a gripe !!!

I just wondered what other fans opinions are

although i enjoyed the concert at the Astoria i felt i couldn't hear enough what Iris was adding to the tracks as i found the Electronic percussion a bit too loud.

I noticed that there isn't so much EP used in The Atomic season releases & JD'A and i quite enjoy this.

I feel that EP comes into it's own especially in the DM series

Do you think that EP is overly used ?

Jollyhawker · Post by **Jollyhawker** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:12 pm

Although I voted Human I feel a mix of both is the best!! The Electronic I feel acts as a Rhythmic background to their music! Iris and Thorston adds power to the whole set and I think the present band is their best incarnation to date - they are simply AWESOME!!!!

billythefish · Post by **billythefish** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:13 pm

TBH - my favourite TD rhythm sections have been sequencer led. I don't mind percussion, but I much prefer it when it is highly integrated with the music, rather than a mere overlay or accompaniment.

So, my vote is for neither!

Beaubourg · Post by **Beaubourg** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:30 pm

I would love to have the synthetic percussion sounds used during the early-mid '80s incorporated into their music today.

I am definitely a nay-sayer of the live/accoustic percussive sounds used in the '90s and am HUGELY opposed to it being used during their live performances nowadays. Utterly useless eye candy - only there to give us something to look. Myself, I would be on Cloud 9 to simply see 3 geezers tucked behind their keyboard racks and nothing/no one else on stage. (But I can understand why TD are incorporating others into their live shows.)

IMHO, of course.

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:59 pm

I think its obviously nigh on impossible to use human percussion 100% for this type of music,IMHO a mixture of both human and EP is great.....I like what Iris and Thorsten both add to the shows with their percussion..

JD · Post by JD » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:57 pm

for me it really depends who's playing. Klaus kreiger on drums really added something full of energy that enhanced the music, but Iris merely bangs around the instruments without much thought until she gets bored, stops without warning (often mid phrase) and takes up a different instrument regardless if it sounds right or not, and whether the music calls for it or not (need i mention Force Majeur bongos

) Somebody should point out that sometimes less really is more.

I also thought the acoustic drums didnt work in the DM series.

Electronic percussion will always work with TD music though.

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:53 pm

Jollyhawker wrote:Although I voted Human I feel a mix of both is the best!!

I voted Synthetic, but I also feel the mix of both is the best!

The Drums in Bent Cold Sidewalk or Voxel Ux (only two examples) are very impressive. At the concerts drums and percussion (and electric guitars!!) are very well additions to perform the studio tracks live.

24db · Post by **24db** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:56 pm

I'm not hugely bothered who or what triggers a drum sound provided it fits with the music. Iris is an amazing musician, and if you think she just turns up and bashes thing randomly then you 'probably' have little appreciation of percussion or how much hard work goes into her preparation for a concert (so, I'd like her drums turned up please

). However, I prefer electronic sounds for the most part (even though they tend to go out of date quicker than almost any sound in TD's arsenal).

Got to agree with the comments about DM4...those acoustic sounds are weedy. Btw Klaus had his chance in TD...twice! , so even though he's a solid/good drummer it's not much use to TD if he doesn't turn up.

Hobo · Post by **Hobo** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:29 pm

I too appreciate both. I prefer electronic percussion in TD music generally, but really enjoy Iris's and Thorsten's live performances.

timer · Post by **timer** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:01 pm

Being in a band with a Human Drummer, Id say you dont get as much grief using drum machines !. And you can program them to play what you want, instead of having a 25 minute redition of Moby none every half hour !.

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:06 pm

Tell you what,i would'nt want to try an attempt at Moby D-ick every night,really thirsty work.........I really dont think anyone hit those skins as hard as Bonham did

some drummer

timer · Post by **timer** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:10 pm

Cant put none , on the forum ! as in Moby none ! see !

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:19 pm

timer wrote:Cant put none , on the forum ! as in Moby none ! see !

Ive altered the above message Tim

timer · Post by **timer** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:42 pm

Nice one mate !

DSJR · Post by **DSJR** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:49 pm

I put synthetic, although the drums on Ricochet (human but treated) worked well for me.

I've never hugely raved over TD with drums, much preferring the more atmospheric sequencer material, although I do like DM3.....

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