Tyger reappraisal

Tropylium · Post by **Tropylium** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:36 pm

That's a good point too. It's a pity they never really explored this style further. Even finding other EM artists in this vein is much more difficult than it should be.

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:40 pm

I wasn't overly happy withh Tyger when it first came out. I thought at the time that the lyrics detracted from the music. Nowadays I'm more relaxed and tolerant about the whole thing and on reflexion it's an album I really enjoy. Some parts are better than others but today I actually quite like track Tyger.

Anyone else find themselves trying to put back the vocals to Tyger whilst listening to Rockface?

Just me then?

billythefish · Post by **billythefish** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:44 pm

I found Tyger a mixed bag when I first heard it, but it's certainly a very strong album for me now.

Unlike many, Smile is one of my all time favourite tracks. I realise it's a simple composition, but then so is LOART. In fact, I think it has a lot of Reichian qualities.

Neither do I mind the vocals. I agree with you Chris that I miss the vocals when they're not there in the alternative versions. I do wonder how the album would have worked with an alternative singer though - not sure that Jocelyn's voice is the most suitable for EM generally, IMHO.

exit81 · Post by **exit81** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:20 am

Knowing nothing about the vocal content of Tyger, I remember rushing back home after buying it on vinyl in Chester, sticking it straight on the turntable, and recoiling in abject horror. Instead of hearing what i'd might be some of the unreleased music from the 86 dates, I heard songs....someone's voice....weak drums....what's going on?

....I checked the sleeve and label to make sure it was TD

. Now I know how some fans felt in 1978! What are they doing??? I decided that this would go right at the back of my collection and collect dust!

Fast forward several years, and of course my appreciation of it grew. Hell, I can even tolerate the vocals, and even quite like some sections. The music is, in parts, quite wonderful, with Alchemy Of The Heart now one of my favourite pieces of the decade. In my experience, I think we'll certainly call Tyger a grower.

24db · Post by **24db** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:27 am

Stand out moment for me is Edgar's guitar on Tyger...utter brilliance my man!

har · Post by **har** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:59 pm

Tell you..............that chorus section in the title track must have some hook in it

Not been able to get it out my mind all week

" Tyger, Tyger, burning bright, in the forests of the night "

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:47 pm

I am led to believe that that the biggest part of this album was composed by EF & PH with a small time contribution from CF..............

GlynRichards · Post by **GlynRichards** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:22 pm

epsilon75 wrote:I am led to believe that that the biggest part of this album was composed by EF & PH with a small time contribution from CF..............

I am led to believe that it was that ratio on most albums

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:27 pm

GlynRichards wrote:
epsilon75 wrote:I am led to believe that that the biggest part of this album was composed by EF & PH with a small time contribution from CF..............
I am led to believe that it was that ratio on most albums

Michael66 · Post by **Michael66** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:46 pm

I've always liked Tyger, no reappraisal needed here.

Plus it made me discover books by and about William Blake, a fellow Sagittarius born on the same day as me. Wish I had his visions and talent though...

xsaram3 · Post by **xsaram3** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:07 am

har wrote:Tell you..............that chorus section in the title track must have some hook in it

Not been able to get it out my mind all week

" Tyger, Tyger, burning bright, in the forests of the night "

Only had first listening to Tyger this week! (Shame on Me)

Have to agree there is some serious hook in " Tyger" have to keep
replaying it

Have to say I realy like the vocals as a whole

Only question, does Jocelyn Bernadette Smith sing the lead on "Tyger" she sounds so different to "London" and "Smile"

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:09 am

i guess Edgar didn't think Cyclone was a TOTAL mistake. he probably thought back to Steve wanting to use his lyrics for it back in '78, and thought "hm...give it another shot?"

and they weren't rushed with the release of this album, at least not that i know of. the tour in 1978 was really putting them in the hawt seat, and they might have been full of frustration over this deadline. with Tyger, they might have been much more chill about the idea.

great album i say. Vigour is even worth mentioning

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:06 pm

Tyger is one of my favorite albums. How I wish the Froese/Franke/Haslinger lineup would have lasted longer.

sparrow · Post by **sparrow** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:40 pm

I've always liked Tyger ...

Sfearical Sequence · Post by **Sfearical Sequence** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:07 pm

24db wrote:Apart from the pronoucation of Thames I haven't got a problem with Tyger at all. There's some fantastic music on it.

That irks me every time I hear it, and I'm not even British! You'd think that would have gotten corrected in rehearsals or at least they could have done a retake. Somewhere I still have a t-shirt promoting the Tyger album that was sent out by the TD International Fan Club. They were free because Tyger was spelled 'Tiger' on the shirt, and obviously they couldn't sell them.

Not a bad album, though. Not as good as Underwater Sunlight, but some decent music to be sure.

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