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Got VFART and the other goodies this morning..I'll listen to them later thanks for the review Andy.. 8)


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Got VFART and the other goodies this morning..I'll listen to them later thanks for the review Andy.. 8)


no problem...it's now on my blog, with some added 'spelling' ;)

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btw nice Zoom-o-graphic card from Edgar

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btw nice Zoom-o-graphic card from Edgar


I missed out this time :cry: :cry: :cry: remind me not to purchase at the concert next time,i love those mini zoom-o-graphics :arrow:

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Weren't the cards being sold last week in Eindhoven ?


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Weren't the cards being sold last week in Eindhoven ?


are you thinking about the EF face design Tim? ...the zoom-o-g is a different design

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Weren't the cards being sold last week in Eindhoven ?


are you thinking about the EF face design Tim? ...the zoom-o-g is a different design


Nah - Elf June and the Midnight Patrol


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Weren't the cards being sold last week in Eindhoven ?


are you thinking about the EF face design Tim? ...the zoom-o-g is a different design


Nah - Elf June and the Midnight Patrol


really? well I certainly didn't see them earlier in the day, it's possible they had some just before or after the gig.

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Nice review of Views Andy, personally I would have scored Fire on a Mountain a little higher, otherwise spot on.

Waiting for the wise words of JP on this CD. 8)


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Nice review of Views Andy, personally I would have scored Fire on a Mountain a little higher, otherwise spot on.

Waiting for the wise words of JP on this CD. 8)


Remember it's my nature to disagree ;)

No, seriously I can't really follow the massive excitement I read about around these pages. I think I've heard 7 times already (thanks the friendly messenger), it can't get more than 7/10 from me.

I really love some tracks, though, my favourite is Hunter Shot By Yellow Rabbit. A really emotional requiem.


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Nice review of Views Andy, personally I would have scored Fire on a Mountain a little higher, otherwise spot on.

Waiting for the wise words of JP on this CD. 8)


Remember it's my nature to disagree ;)

No, seriously I can't really follow the massive excitement I read about around these pages. I think I've heard 7 times already (thanks the friendly messenger), it can't get more than 7/10 from me.

I really love some tracks, though, my favourite is Hunter Shot By Yellow Rabbit. A really emotional requiem.


Wow! Dalinetopia gets a 4/10!! Brutal!

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Yes, that's true.


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Pertou wrote:
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Nice review of Views Andy, personally I would have scored Fire on a Mountain a little higher, otherwise spot on.

Waiting for the wise words of JP on this CD. 8)


Remember it's my nature to disagree ;)

No, seriously I can't really follow the massive excitement I read about around these pages. I think I've heard 7 times already (thanks the friendly messenger), it can't get more than 7/10 from me.

I really love some tracks, though, my favourite is Hunter Shot By Yellow Rabbit. A really emotional requiem.


Same with me Jacob, At first I would have given it maybe a 5 but it has gorwn on me now so it is up to 6. It is an enjoyable album but I cant really reach the level of excitement as most people.


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TD's music always has been "travel music" of sorts. Think about the journey through the Mojave desert ("Mojave Plan"), a journey through different parks all around the world ("Le Parc") or a certain "Jungle Journey" on "Turn Of The Tides".
"Views From A Red Train" must be considered as TD's latest chapter in musical journeys, but something has changed. This album has a sense of urgency to it, the different tunes are highly energetic and joyful (at least partially).
Edgar's work throughout the year 2007, especially the various EPs, was dominated by fast sequencers and strong melodies. These can also be found on "Train". The ten tracks are (with only one exception) full of fast rhythms. Additionally Edgar Froese added a lot of electric guitars to his recent sound, reminding the fans of some 90's material. But one shouldn't worry, this album works perfectly in the tradition of TD's last years.

"Carmel Calif" is a great opening track. I can't believe that it was added to the album at the eleventh hour as it fits perfectly to the rest of "Train". Here you can find more of these vocal samples Edgar already used on many tracks last year. The guitar parts were recorded by Edgar and Bernhard Beibl.

"Passing All Signs" is very quiet, almost in a "Seven Letters From Tibet" kind of way. This composition doesn't fit to the album, although its melodic nature makes for a nice change. It's like the calm before the storm.

This storm breaks loose in "Leviathan". It's already a classic TD track, including drums played by Thorsten Quaeschning. The guitar parts by Bernhard a pure rock, some very strange solo parts for a TD release. The fact that Edgar borrowed the bass line from the "Dragnet" theme doesn't weaken the overall impression.

"Hunter Shot By A Yellow Rabbit" is the most complex tune on this album. More female vocal samples and a emotional melody soon make room for more heavy rock guitars, this time played by Edgar. Iris adds some great percussion to this track.

"Nutshell Awakening" - a tribute to Stephen Hawking - works equally well. It's one of the compositions that start quite gently but soon build to a haunting theme. Edgar often composes repetetive structures adding layer upon layer of rhythms and melodies. This one is a perfect example for this technique. Once more Iris Camaa adds electronic percussion and Bernhard Beibl plays guitar.

"One Night In Space" is in fact the recording from last year's EP, but Edgar added more synth parts, Thorsten plays drums and Bernhard plays electric guitar upon the backing track. This composition still is one of my favourites from TD's recent output.

On "Serpent Magique" you can hear another gradually building composition. Here Linda Spa is credited with horns and sax, but I think her contributions were mixed into the background, at least these instruments are inaudible.

With "Lord Of The Ants" the album reaches almost 90's territory, but Edgar's guitar parts are much more focussed and melodic. Linda's sax once more is credited but unfortunately can't be found in the final mix.

One of the highlights of the album is "Fire On The Mountain", maybe the fastest composition TD ever recorded. The only complaint may be caused by sound effects that already featured very prominently on "Summer In Nagasaki". The urgency of these compositions is nowhere as prominant than here. Iris is featured once more on percussion.

"Sound Of A Shell" is the perfect album closer. It contains two very different parts that fade into one another very slowly. Here Edgar and Bernhard play acoustic guitar together.

Over a year ago TD announced this album as Edgar Froese's forthcoming new solo album. Now it mutated into the new TD album, but somehow it still feels like a solo record. The other musicians (especially Bernhard Beibl) add to the foundation Edgar laid with his synth and piano parts, but how much they changed the recordings can't be told without insight into the recording process. TD announced that "Train" would be the "most rock orientated album they ever did", but this description may lead to false expectations. Many elements are typical for Edgar's work, but overall the music is much faster. Many tunes may not hold your attention immediately as they're very complex. It may take repeated listening to really get to know them. The sound of 2007 still can be found here, but the guitar solos change the overall mood, so the "rock" classification is not wrong entirely. It's a great album, not only for train journeys.

Rating: 9 / 10


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Excellent review mate. Whether you like it or whether you don't...in the end, it's just music...enjoy it or find something else that apeals more

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