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I hope this happens and that several folks past and present also join in now and then ... I will trek up to Seattle or to SF if I have to, and catch this.ant wrote: Looks like there will hopefully be a Celebration Tour in Spring 2016 hitting Europe first and then on to North America. Will make sure my passport is renewed in time as I fancy another trip to the States to see TD celebrating the Life and Works of Edgar Froese.
You're a little ray of sunshine aren't you Hippi ?Hipgnosis wrote:Hi,
I sincerely hope that this was not just a rumor ... to get us all excited about some bad addiction that we have.
As much as I would love to see it, I'm convinced that this will not happen, and by the time it does happen, it might be too late and this old turkey here, will be on a wheelchair, and/or walking canes, and getting to places to see this will be an impossibility ... and I do not wish to be like Grace Slick, making pathetic comments about old age, and thinking that we're all too ugly to even stand up and be counted! Like everything she was a part of was not important, or she was too ripped to know the difference! She had first made that comment about a geriatric old lady in her own book as far as I know.
Sadly, I think that a lot of TD's folks and friends, will limit the number of people showing up, so they can come up with something more cohesive for the stage ... and thus, the ability, or possibility of seeing a few other folks with them, having fun in joining in, becomes a mute point and won't happen.
As for folks showing up and adding to the presence and show? In Seattle, John Serrie should show up and play a thing or two. And in different cities, other folks should also show up. But the one person that is qualified as conductor and arranger, who probably could help put it all in perspective is already not even mentioned ... Linda Spa ... and while she might be more concerned with the continuity of things to create a full piece, others might want to experiment more ... and I'm not sure that this kind of problem is going to get resolved well enough ... to help define a new tour and material for it, other than the top ten or 20 pieces. Which they all can play in their sleep by now!
It's the reality that hurts the most. I missed my only chance in life to see Baryshnikov, for example, but I have been luckier than most, having gotten Pink Floyd 4 times, no Led Zep and no Beatles, and walked out of Rolling Stones, but I did see Magma twice, Gong, and a handful of other bands, but in general, of the big ones, Schulze, TD, Vangelis and Mike Oldfield, is a sad dead end, although I can understand the difficulties involved to preserve the quality.T4N63R1N3 DR34M wrote:You're a little ray of sunshine aren't you Hippi ?Hipgnosis wrote:Hi,
I sincerely hope that this was not just a rumor ... to get us all excited about some bad addiction that we have.
Ho hum ... old movie! AND the music was by someone else!ant wrote: Always look on the bright side of life, hey, Hipgnosis!!
I am VERY interested in what they will do, as individuals. I am not sure, as are others, that anything should (necessarily) be done under the TD totem pole. Well, I guess our civilization lives for worshipping Gods ... so why not?ant wrote: ... As I have said before, if you are not interested in anything they may or may not do since Edgar passed, then don't keep posting on the Forum putting downers on everything....
Jokes won't go far with you, hey?ant wrote: ...
Also, I definitely would not want to see Jerome appearing under the name TD ever again. Luckily, I believe that would never happen anyway - thank God!!
Don't know why Jerome uses the word "exploitation". I am sure EF gave instructions on how his musical legacy was to be handled and presented. And he probably wanted the Quantum era music to be finished and released. And apart from that we have only had one compilation of tracks that his beloved wife compiled.T4N63R1N3 DR34M wrote:I think Jerome has made it PERFECTLY clear how he feels about any future gigs or recordings.
This sentence was in his post on Facebook when he was promoting the "Final Movement" track
"Well, and let me get this straight: This piece of music isn't a tribute nor it's something which has anything to do with the recent exploitation of my dad's musical remains which I still do not support. "
So the chances of him performing on stage or even appearing on stage with the 'new' TD are about the same as finding life on Mars
Didn't Edgar divulge in one interview that Jerome didn't really get on well with TQ when the latter became a member? That may partially explain why Jerome left when he did.Jon wrote:Must be a little tricky for Jerome though, as he used to be friends with both TQ and Schnauss, and I guess he knows Baumann from the Melrose album from 1990. Must be hard to burn bridges like that.
I've always been perplexed by Jerome's relationship/attitude toward his dad and TD. I don't know all the intricacies of Jerome and Edgar's working relationship from 1990 to 2006, but it's apparent that they didn't really compose music as a team for the most part. Jerome often loaded the concert setlists with his own compositions/remixes while keeping Edgar's content to a minimum. I'm left with the impression that Jerome didn't have the warmest relationship with his dad (at least not publicly), so it's odd to see him so protective of his dad's legacy. All the while, it's hard to deny that Jerome seems to take his years in the band for granted. This has not been a pleasant subject for me to reflect on, but it's something I'm compelled to comment on as a concerned fan.Network23 wrote:Yes, Jerome's use of the term exploitation is a curious one because, as I pointed out in a different thread, he's issued a compilation drawing on his early years as a member of Tangerine Dream. While he's careful to not explicitly use the name of the band on the cover, everyone knows where they heard the first published versions of the tracks he's compiled.
Not sure if it was Edgar, but I don't see who else could have said it. But yes, Jerome and Thorsten didn't get along, at least as musical collaborators. The difference in TD's subsequent output was eyebrow-raising. Loads of classic TD tracks found their way back into the sets. Thorsten appeared to do a fair bit of live playing and sequence manipulation on the live vids I've watched.PurpleTwilight wrote:Didn't Edgar divulge in one interview that Jerome didn't really get on well with TQ when the latter became a member? That may partially explain why Jerome left when he did.
When I saw the 220 Volt concert in Los Angeles, the only constant between that show and the one in San Diego in 1988 was Edgar. Had he not been there, I would've thought I walked into the wrong concert. And I say this having heard Rockoon beforehand. But apart from Edgar's fantastic guitar solo in "Hamlet" (which is d e l e t e d ! from the Orange Sized Dreams version) and the appearance of "Love on a Real Train," the proceedings resembled a band with an identity crisis.PurpleTwilight wrote:I've always been perplexed by Jerome's relationship/attitude toward his dad and TD. I don't know all the intricacies of Jerome and Edgar's working relationship from 1990 to 2006, but it's apparent that they didn't really compose music as a team for the most part. Jerome often loaded the concert setlists with his own compositions/remixes while keeping Edgar's content to a minimum.
The next album must stand as some kind of proof that Jerome doesn't have much, if any, say in what can be done with the Tangerine Dream brand. I wonder if any rarities will come our way or if Edgar's bidding was that "the vault" be sealed and never opened again.PurpleTwilight wrote:I'm left with the impression that Jerome didn't have the warmest relationship with his dad (at least not publicly), so it's odd to see him so protective of his dad's legacy. All the while, it's hard to deny that Jerome seems to take his years in the band for granted. This has not been a pleasant subject for me to reflect on, but it's something I'm compelled to comment on as a concerned fan.